Hello my friends, and welcome back to not another Mindset show. I’m your host, Dr. Kasey Joe. My goal with this podcast is to take the science of mindset and behavior change and distill it down into actionable takeaways for you. Together we’re gonna unpack research around motivations, self-sabotage, willpower, and so much more, and we’re going to take all of that and translate it into strategies you can immediately apply to your health, fitness, relationships business.

Marketing clients, all of the things. But just to be clear, it’s not all serious and Sy around here. We’re gonna have a ton of fun too, and I’m so excited to share all of this with you. Alright, let’s go ahead and get into the episode. Hello. Hello my friends, and welcome back to not another mindset show.

Today is gonna be a fun episode. I hope it’s fun, I should say, because I’ve never done an episode like this before. I would like to do more q and a episodes. I, I really like getting questions from you guys and be able to answer them sort of in real time. That’s kind of how I do the majority of the things in my business.

So, you know, when I am speaking on stages or I’m doing guest trainings, or I’m speaking inside my own programs, pretty much everything is revolved around just like. Hey, Casey, here’s a question. Can you answer it? So, I really like to teach this way and share in this format. And we’re, we’re not just talking behavior change and mindset coaching strategies in this q and a I left it open to literally be questions about anything.

So in today’s episode, I kind of grabbed a, a, most of the questions that were asked, number one and number two, tried to make sure it was a good mix of things so that you get to learn a little bit more about me. My life and my business, but also get some help on all the fun stuff inside mindset, behavior change, and psychology.

So I have a link that you can ask me a question. It is in the show notes below. It’s actually, I think in every single episode in the show notes where you can ask a question. So if you get through an episode and you’re like, huh, I wonder how this would apply to this specific client, or How could I apply this to my life?

Please throw that in the question box. Um, or if you see something on Instagram or I say something today that you wanna learn more about, like, I’m going to be talking about like my business. My personal life a little bit. So if something comes up for you and you’re like, huh, I really wish I could ask Casey this question, or like, how does she see relationships from a mindset perspective or literally anything.

If you have the question, please don’t just keep it in your head. I wanna hear from you. So make sure you throw that into the q and a form, because the plan would be so long as you guys actually like this format. Of episode, the plan would be to do these more frequently. Um, I batch episodes in like about six, six to eight episodes every time I’m recording.

So the goal would be that every batch, I have a q and A episode, but I also need questions to, I need cues in order to do the aing. So please, please, please help me out and ask some questions. Obviously, if you don’t wanna throw it into the form, form’s not working, something like that, you can always just ask me on Instagram too.

Just throw me a DM and let me know what’s on your mind and we can go from there. So. Today I have, how many questions do I have? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. I have eight questions and they are a good mix of both. Let me help you and then also let’s just connect and you can learn a little bit more about me. So the first question I have.

Is, how do you plan your weeks and days out to ensure you’re productive and focused on the things you want to be focused on? And literally, there are three main things that immediately come to mind. One, I. My team, I am at the point in business right now and um, it’s funny, Kira, if you’re listening to this, Kira is my O-B-O-B-M.

She’s like the right hand in my business. Many of you have had the blessing of getting to connect with Kira already, um, through various programs, maybe on email, what have you. She literally keeps my head on straight. I, I don’t know what I would do without her. I don’t know what I would do without my team and like I, I am kind of at the point where.

I am almost told what are the most important tasks and what I need to get done by my team. So. How we have our business structure too, and kind of how I, I generally teach like my mentorship clients inside the Growth Collective, which is my one-on-one like business mentorship offer that I have, is to build out an organizational chart and get to the point where you kind of, as the CEO, you’re the visionary inside the business.

You sit at the top of that chart and then you have people underneath you. I don’t really like saying like underneath, but people who then hear you out hear are your ideas, see the vision, and then help you actually execute it and then go to various people that will help with that execution. So that’s kind of like how my team works at this point and is again, I.

Kind of how I teach direction of just like organization build out to those that work with me in a one-on-one capacity for business. And so my team is the number one thing after that. My Google calendar, when I tell you I live and die by my Google calendar, I don’t know how people like don’t map things out that way.

And I do a little bit of both. Obviously what’s on my calendar of like, okay, like today for instance, at 10:00 AM I had a guest training that I did in someone else’s program. So I have that on my calendar. Um, I’m going to like a book launch event this evening that’s on my calendar. I have two one-on-one calls with mentorship clients.

Those are on my calendar, obviously, like calls basically are there right? However, I also block off when I’m going to the gym, I block off when I’m writing podcast scripts, which I was also doing today. I block off the times when I’m actually recording podcasts, so I do like, I, I’m not a huge like time blocker.

I. If you looked at my calendar, you wouldn’t be able to know exactly what tasks I’m doing throughout the day. Always. But a lot of the time I do use it that way to make sure that I stay on track and I live and die by the Google calendar. Like we even, we had a situation a couple months ago where we were like setting up, I say we, this was my team.

My team was setting up like calendar invites for upcoming calls inside the health mindset coaching certification. It was for the alumni group specifically. And the person who was scheduling them didn’t realize that it was her time zone that was getting scheduled versus like, we operate on central time, just like, because that’s my time zone.

So those calls are at 5:00 PM the first Tuesday of the month, and they have been for years. And, and just laughing at myself at like how I just, I literally pay so close attention to the calendar and nothing else. I don’t even give it a second thought. And so she scheduled it and it was at 6:00 PM and. I was just like, oh, okay, so the call’s at 6:00 PM no, it’s not.

The call should be at 5:00 PM and the, the calendar was wrong, but here I am, like not showing up at 5:00 PM and then people are confused like, Hey, why isn’t the call starting whatever? And I’m like, oh, it’s not for another hour. And I’m like, wait a second. That seems wrong. It shouldn’t be starting in another hour.

So I literally live and die by it. But it’s nice because I think it helps. Both of these things. My team, the Google Calendar, and I’ll talk about one more thing too. I can just like totally offload so much of that to everything else so that I’m not having to constantly think about like, what am I doing today?

What does this look like? Where do I need to go? Where do I need to show up? How are these things getting executed? All of the tiny little tasks. That go into every single project, like I’m able to offload so much of that bandwidth, which then opens up so much bandwidth for me to like actually do the things that are within my zone of genius.

You know, creation and being creative and coming up with the ideas and how are we going to scale the business? Like kind of those bigger ideas I have this space for, and. The third thing was clickup. Clickup is the project management software that we use inside my business, and it’s become, again, it’s the thing that tells me what to do, like it literally is so I, every morning, or honestly most nights, this might be helpful too.

Most nights before I like totally wrap up my workday, I’ll look at everything that I have to get done tomorrow. And same with like at the beginning of every week, I’ll go, okay, what is the stuff that needs to get done this week? How am I scheduling that out throughout my week based on what else I have going on?

So at the end of every workday, I tie up loose ends and then figure out what I have to get done the next day. And Clickup really helps with that too. And again, that could be my team assigning things to me, or it could be like reminders for myself. So I log in to Clickup and on the home screen it’s like, good morning Casey.

Here’s all the shit you gotta do today. So that’s really helpful for me too. And I will say like, you can take some of what I’m saying here and try it for yourself, but everyone is going to be a little bit different just like in how they operate and how they’re most productive. So definitely keep that in mind.

Um, we are doing a lot more planning out in advance going into 2025 as I’m recording this right now. It’s actually December, and I know you’re listening to this like. Months later, but this is us being, see, planning ahead, getting ahead of things because I have a really, really busy February with travel.

I’m moving the live event on Mar March 1st, which by the time you’re listening to this, that live event has already happened, which is crazy. Um, so because of that, I’m not recording any episodes in February and March. So I’m doing a lot of like getting ahead. And that’s also again. I’m not doing this all myself, right?

Like I sit down and I create scripts and I, not necessarily even scripts, like bullet points for what I need to talk about and I turn on my camera and then the rest of the podcast editing and publishing and turning into reels and everything else is handled by my team. So it’s, everyone is on board for this.

And that requires, when you have a lot of people, it’s really great, but it also means there’s a lot of like things you need to get in line because there’s so many people involved in all of these tasks. Um. Yeah. I hope that was helpful. But if you have any more questions about how I run things, how I do things, how I operate on a day-to-day basis, please throw your questions into that question form and I can answer more of those later.

Okay. The next question, I am addicted to my phone help. What advice would you have to break the habit and dependency of constantly checking and scrolling? Yeah, these are like. Really like new problems, you know, like how, how do we get around this stuff that’s only existed for the last like five to 10 years, you know?

Well, when did Instagram come out? Maybe longer than that. I don’t know. I really don’t know. Um, I’m not gonna take the time to try to think about that, but like 2012 is like when I started posting and it is 20, 24, 12 years ago. Wow. That’s crazy. What? Anyway, um, so this is a new issue, but how do we get around it?

And the first thing that comes to mind for me is just thinking about habit breaking, habit formation, kind of like the basics of that. And when I teach about habits, like inside the health mindset coaching certification, I talk a lot about friction. So what I mean by friction is like making things. Less difficult or more difficult.

Excuse me. So making things more difficult, like that’s the things that you’re trying to stop doing, and that’s what we’re talking about here, right? Stop scrolling. Stop checking your phone. I. And I think we all are fall prey to this, right? Like you open your phone to do something and now suddenly you’re on like someone’s ex-girlfriend’s Instagram page reading through a post from 2015.

Like how did you get here? You’re like, wait, whoa, how? Like how did that just happen? So with that said, friction. So how do we create more friction? Obviously one of the easiest things is like where you’re working. Like right now, I’m sitting in my office. To take your phone and not have it sitting in the office.

I know sounds crazy, but so many people don’t freaking do it. So if you’re trying to not scroll, like, how about don’t have the scrolling machine anywhere near you? Um, so honestly, truly try that. Like literally try that and I’m, you’re like, okay, that sounds, that’s so simple. It’s so whatever. Yeah. But are you doing it?

Are you doing it so. Try that first. And also another thing you can kind of do here is to really think about how you feel when you get catch yourself scrolling and you’re just kind of like mindlessly again, ex-girlfriend from 2015. You’re like, what? What’s going on? How does it feel when you’re doing that?

You’re like, God, I just wasted so much time. That didn’t feel good. And to be honest, when I am on my phone, you know, it’s, it’s often like in waiting periods, you know, like I’m standing in line at the airport or, um, I am delaying going into the gym, you know, sitting in my car. Stuff like that. And I just, like, I, I find myself doing it and I’m like, Ugh, ugh.

Like that just doesn’t feel good to me. So it’s like really paying attention to those feelings. So when you do find yourself doing it, really take a second, like when you’re like, whoa, I don’t wanna do this anymore. I need to put my phone down. How are you feeling in that moment? And then also the times where maybe you pick up your phone, you open Instagram, and you’re like, I’m not doing this.

And you catch yourself. Or maybe you do leave your phone like out in the kitchen instead of your office or whatever. And you’re like going to the bathroom and you stop and you like grab your phone and you catch yourself and you’re like, no, I’m not doing this. Like how good does it feel to make that decision?

It feels very empowering, right? To be like, no, I am making a decision in this moment to not do this for the better. So really pay attention to those feelings and emotions. ’cause when we have feelings and emotions attached to actions, we’re more likely to remember them. And it’s more likely to stay like salient and like accessible in our brains.

So. Even if you don’t do anything to actually make a change, just start paying attention to the feelings and that can be really helpful too. I feel like I could go a lot of different directions with this, but I’m gonna stop there and if you guys have any more questions or want me to dive into it deeper, lemme know.

I have this like incessant tickle in my throat and it’s so frustrating. The last thing you want when you sit down to record a podcast, literally. Okay. Next question, the classic, where do you see yourself in your business in the next one to three years? So I’m gonna start with business and we are, when you’re listening to this podcast, we’re already well into 2025, but for me, I’m at the end of 2024 and we just did like so much 2025 planning.

Like when I tell you. Me and my team were in Arizona and we spent six and a half hours on Sunday before we all went home after a business conference, just planning for 2025 and really like looking at like what are our goals for all of these different capacities? You know, talking about like revenue targets, talking about like obviously the impact that we were wanting to make, which is where everything comes from.

Like everything branches off of impact, so. We want to help more coaches. ’cause then we know if we help more coaches, all of those coaches are gonna feel better. But then also all of those coaches probably have between 10 and 50 clients that they’re helping. And now all of those people get help. So the more people that we can help, the more people that get helped.

You know, so all of it branches off of that. So we we’re talking revenue goals, we’re talking about podcast growth, we’re talking about, um, how we’re going to revamp some of our programs and like promote them better and all of that. And for the first time ever, like literally first time ever, I’ve been a full-time business owner for going on five years now.

What? That’s also crazy to think about. And we’ve done seven figures in revenue for the past three years. Four years. Four years. For the past four years, also crazy. And even at this level, this was the first time ever we fully planned out 2025, and we know exactly what’s happening. With that said, we spent a lot of time, like I said, figuring out what that’s going to look like and how everything is going to funnel back to growing the health mindset coaching certification.

’cause that’s our main goal. I. Get more students into HMCC that we can help, and then those students go and help so many more people. So everything that we’re doing, again, podcasts, social media, mini programs, DIY projects, projects, products, is what I meant to say there, um, live workshops that I’m looking forward to creating in 2025.

All of that is like, yes, with the, with the. The, the core of all of it is how do we serve and how do we help more, and then how do we get more people in the HMCC? ’cause that is the goal. The one goal grow the health mindset coaching certification. Then everything else is kind of like supporting that and also just supporting everything.

So we’re, we’re doing a lot more like updates to a lot of our DIY programs, like I said, a couple of them. The psychology of signing more clients and transform your forms were both recently updated. So rerecorded, new content, new format, so much better. I’ll make sure both of those are linked if you guys wanna check them out.

And also like super, super stupid, affordable. So if you want to get into all of this stuff, behavior change, mindset psychology for clients, for both, like building your business, getting more clients, and also helping the current clients that you have. Check out those programs. I’ll make sure they’re linked.

Like I said, um, other things like business related team myself in the next one to three years. Also letting you guys know, like I, I have like a couple things that I wanted to make sure I touched on for each of these questions, but I’m mostly just like flying by the seat of my pants for this, for this episode.

Um. I really, really, really wanna speak on more stages. I want to guest on more podcasts, want to grow this podcast, just more ways that are honestly entirely free to the audience to get the word out there about effective coaching practices. So that’s a big focus too, in, in 2025 and beyond, like that’s really the goal.

Um, obviously things could change in a couple years and I may have different. Things that I’m focusing on or the business direction or whatever. But for the most part I’m thinking like, next one to three years, this is, this is what we’re doing. It’s what we’re doing. Okay. Personal side of things. In the next one to three years, I think I had four different questions and I have these every single time.

I do like q and a boxes on. My Instagram stories as well. Yes. I’m still single. It’s literally, I had a question that was like, are you still single? I mean, that’s how I heard it in my head. Are you still single? Yes, I’m still single. Um, I mean, at the time of recording this podcast, you know, and things could change in the next few months for, for anyone who’s, who’s recently been in the dating world, you know, things can change very quickly.

You go from like, wow, I have like three candidates, a bunch of guys that I’m excited about to like, I haven’t spoken to. Uh. Male in the last three months. You know, like, that’s literally how it goes. So yeah, I am, I am still single and I say still single. I have, um, I’ve only been single for two years, like basically two years as I’m recording this podcast.

So a little over two years by the time you’re listening to this damn throat tickle, why won’t it go away? Um, oh no, I really hope I’m not getting sick. Please, please. Not. Not before Christmas. Not before Christmas. Um. So, yeah, I haven’t really had any significant, like, relationships, intimate, romantic relationships in two years.

Um, I’ve had, you know, some things here and there that just didn’t work out for whatever reason. Um, I haven’t ever been on a bad date, I’ll say that. I actually, the part of dating that I really enjoy is just like, honestly connection and getting to know someone else. And like, there’s so many interesting people in this world and everyone has so many stories and.

Yeah. Anyway, so yeah, in the next one to three years, um, listen, my, my goal is to find a partner, like I do wanna end up with someone. And I, I like building a life with someone. To be honest, this is actually the longest I’ve ever been single before, like, since I really started seriously dating. Um, I’ve been pretty much in like a serial relationship person.

Honestly not by like choice. A lot of times it’s been like I want to be single and then like, oh, I really like this person. So then it’s like two to four years later and I’m been in a relationship with that person for that length of time. Um, but at the same time, I am so. So fulfilled by my friendships, by my life, by my business, by my Letty, my dog.

I really, really love my life like I do. So whoever comes along, like, I’m excited for that. Like, it’s obviously fun to be like, who’s it gonna be? Who’s gonna be that person that I end up with? But I am, I am ultimately not that concerned. Like I’m really not because I, it’s not like I’m sitting around here bored, like I don’t.

No, the last time I was like, what is boredom? That doesn’t exist in my life. Like it really doesn’t. Um, so yeah, in the next one to three years, I would love to meet my person, but I’m not rushed, you know, in the marriage, kids front, nothing like that. Like I, geez, sorry. I hope that wasn’t loud. I just hit the microphone.

Um. So we’ll see. We’ll see. But I’m obviously open to it. So, um, like I said, I’m moving into a new apartment here soon. By the time this podcast airs, I will already be in said apartment. I’m moving like closer to downtown Austin, closer to friends in a really, really cute area that I’m excited about. Um, so that’ll bring new changes to me.

New gym, new environment, and I, yeah, I don’t know. I see myself there for an extended period of time, but also you never know. You never know. Um, yeah, I don’t know. This is, this is cool for me because like reflecting on where I wanna be personally in the next even business. In the next one to three years really just makes me realize how great I have it currently.

So there isn’t like any, like, I don’t sit down and go, okay, next one to three years, these massive changes need to happen. I’m gonna be in this totally different place and different people and making so much more money. Or like any of that like. Honestly, no. I’m like is if we can relatively keep things the same and just like cont continue to make things better to a degree, great.

And like I already have proven to myself and I’ve seen firsthand that my life just keeps getting better. Like it really does. And I think so long as you stay in that belief of like, it just keeps getting better. It will. And I mean that’s the secret to things getting better is believing that it will get better.

It’s like your mindset matters or something. All right. All right. Let’s, let’s move on. This one is, I guess, is a little bit similar. Um, what’s something you’d like to do or experience in 2025? Um, going back to the business planning, I mean, I’m just like so fricking stoked. I’m so stoked for 2025 as far as the business goes, just because we are being so much more intentional with like all of our goals broken down into quarterly, monthly, even weekly.

Targets that we need to hit in order to have like the 2025 that we’re looking for. So like, uh, even just sitting here talking about it like makes me, I’m such a fricking nerd, but I’m so stoked for just like how we have everything mapped out and how everyone’s just like so enrolled in the vision and what we’re doing and.

It’s gonna be a good one. Um, what else things I wanna experience in 2025? I, I’m definitely due for like an extended solo trip. Um, I haven’t done it, I haven’t done like a longer solo trip in like a few years. I think my last one was Mexico. It’s usually Mexico, to be honest. It’ll probably be Mexico again, big Mexico fan.

Um. However, I also will probably be going to Spain in June and I’m doing that with, um, a girlfriend or a few depending on who ends up coming. So I may extend that in either direction of that trip and just like turn it into like more time in Spain. I just, Spanish speaking countries, I need to correct practice.

I was gonna try to stay in Spanish, but I’m not gonna try to embarrass myself. Need to practice my Spanish. Um. I take Spanish lessons like one to two times per week. And I have been for like the last year or so, I studied abroad in Mexico and college. Took a couple years of Spanish there, took a couple years in high school and I desperately want to be fluent.

Um, that’s like a before I die type of goal. So, and anytime I go to a Spanish speaking country for an extended period of time, I feel like I like level up like 17 levels. ’cause you’re just like constantly having to translate and. Try, right. Um, yeah, that I may, I’ve had like a couple instances of people already inviting me to go to Burning Man and listen, I love like music festivals and stuff like that.

I’m, I’m definitely approaching retirement when it comes to music festivals and raves and in that entire world. Um, but Burning Man just seems like another planet and something that’s just like, would be a wild experience so that there’s like. For those of you who don’t know anything about Burning Man, there is, it’s very hard to like establish like a, a campsite and go there because there’s so many people who have been doing it for so long.

You know, they call them the burners. So like getting invited to go with a group who already has that, like established everything, and I’ve had that twice now, so there’s a chance. It’s not something that I will be like, it’s not a do before I die type of thing. Like I have to do it, but. So far, the opportunities seem to be presenting themselves and I feel like it could be really good for me.

Just like no phones, no computer, just in the desert. My friends getting dressed up. I love, I love to get dressed up, so we’ll see. Okay. Changing it up a little bit from a, this is the question from a lead generation standpoint for coaching, have you seen a shift in the market? I’ve noticed what used to work no longer works, at least for me.

If so, what have you done to adapt to that change consistently to get leads and then turn into clients and build that trust? Thank you. Thank you, thank you. Um, yeah, there’s been a big shift and a lot of it has to do with people who have relied on social media for lead generation. We are no longer in the same place where there’s, I mean, there’s so many more.

I wish I had like the stats for this. So many more users, like on Instagram, TikTok, all of these platforms. Where you used to be able to get like a lot more engagement? I mean it’s, it’s embarrassing, like the engagement that I get. Like I have close to 50,000 followers on Instagram and I’m lucky if I see like 300 to 500 likes on a post.

And I know a lot of people are scrolling and not liking like I do that too, you know? So to keep that in mind or like Instagram story views. Again, like I’m lucky to see like two to 3000 with 50,000 followers. Like where are you all at? What’s going on? And then it’s like heartbreaking when I have people reach out to me and are like, I’ve been following you for years and I haven’t seen your content like the last six months, what’s going on?

I’m like, I don’t know. I would love to know. Um, so that’s kind of a bummer, but. It makes it hard if you use social media for like a main source of marketing, which I know a lot of us have. I’ve very much so been able to build my business leveraging social media. Um, I will say like I have pretty heavily pivoted to doing the majority of my selling and marketing through email, um, and then Instagram podcasts, things like that just become an opportunity for my te for me to teach and build trust and connection with all of you.

Um, so my email list is my. Is my money maker if I had to pick one. So I would also, if you don’t have an email list and you’re listening to this, some of you’re probably feeling like, yeah, I freaking know. I know, I know, I know. Um, that’s something you need to be doing. Um, you have to also have to think like there are just like more health and fitness coaches than ever, and like this industry is continuing to grow, which is great.

We can help more people, but also means that you have a responsibility to stand out, right? You have to be different, look different, feel different than everybody else. So whether that is like you have like a unique niche or. Different certifications or skillset. You are health mindset coaching certified.

You went through the certification that I run as an example. Um, but it’s true, and there’s so many people looking for mindset coaches. Like, I think clients, people in general are really, really looking for long-term change and they’re looking for real change. They’re not just like, sign me up for the 30 day quick fix type of thing.

If they’re gonna hire a coach, they want a relationship and they want to work on behaviors, not just like delivering a meal plan, like chat. GPT can do that for you, you know? So that’s a big part of it too. So just like making sure that you can stand out and then also show it. Show it. If you have special credentials or skillset or a specific ideal client that you wanna work with, fricking talk about it and show it.

Create freebies, do webinars, go to local events and offer the ability to like, to speak on something. Like that’s, that’s what you gotta do. And I’ve had a lot of, like my mentees have good success with like connecting with local businesses and stuff like that too. Like remember, even if you’re just working online, that doesn’t mean you can’t do things in person.

In fact, like that’s a lot of how I got started when I first started coaching was like in-person seminars and offering for free to go speak to people about nutrition and mindset and all that jazz. Okay, next one. Advice for creating scenarios in your head that get you worked up. That’s the next question here.

So advice, like I said, I don’t really have a ton of stuff written down for these questions, so I really am like thinking on the spot here. Um, I think first and foremost. Remember that your brain is doing the things that it’s doing to protect you. So if your brain is going to like a worst case scenario, making up stories in your head that you may, you know, that like aren’t even necessarily true, but it’s like turning it at, you’re like spiraling and it’s all these thoughts are turning into like other little gremlin thoughts and you’re just like being attacked.

Um. It’s your brain actually trying to take care of you. It’s trying to say like, beware, this is the direction things could go. I wanna protect you. I want to make you aware so you can adequately prepare and all, and all of that. Like that’s what’s actually going on. So I think the first thing to think about is like, I.

In any situation with any like negative thoughts or ruminating or creating stories in your head, like coming back and being like, number one, I would ask yourself, where’s this coming from? Where’s this actually coming from? What fear, what trauma, what past experience, what self-belief is driving these scenarios in my head, that will uncover a lot, that will teach you a lot and you can learn something from that.

So. Kind of doing your best to reframe some of those negative scenarios as number one, it’s just your brain trying to protect you so you can be like, thank you brain. That’s not necessarily true or there’s no reason that would actually come to light, but like, thank you. I appreciate you for trying to take care of me.

I. And then go, okay, so but why did I have this thought? Like where was that coming from? Like what was my brain trying to protect me from spending some time with that I think is an excellent process. Um, I. You can also use a little bit of like cognitive behavioral therapy thinking like what is the evidence that I have for this?

What evidence is against it and based on the evidence for, and the evidence against what is the most accurate depiction of this thought that I’m having, this belief that I’m having? And then like really sit with that. That can help. There’s like evidence for evidence against which is actually the most accurate thing here.

And just kind of bring yourself back to reality. Get your feet on the ground type of thing. Okay, next question. Difference between your psych degree and a research heavy clinical psych degree. Okay, so I don’t have a clinical psychology degree, which means that I did not learn how to assess or treat mental illnesses, and that’s.

Where clinical psychology comes into play, like you’re a clinician, right? So I didn’t have any of that training. I learned a lot about all of the different mental illnesses and have a good understanding of all of that. But I was not trained to actually diagnose and treat. So that’s the biggest difference between like my degree and what a clinical psychology degree is.

And that said. You can get a clinical psychology PhD and still do research. Most of those programs are still doing research. But you also have to remember that all programs are like dependent on that program. They can all look very different. So whereas some clinical PhD, psychology PhD programs, you’ll be doing act the same type of research that I did, like very research heavy, like this person is asking, um.

And do like a, a rigorous dissertation like I did. Um, but other ones are going to be less focused on research and we’ll do more like something like, like a review of the literature or. Probably like an analysis of like clinical cases, so like spending time there and like still probably, I would assume, obviously I don’t, I’m not like the developer of PhD program curriculum here, but even as a clinical psych PhD, you need to know how to decipher, read and assess research and like understand that so you can also like read a paper and apply it to the work that you’re doing.

So it just may be like less of like the really rigorous dissertation type of work and more about like, let’s review the literature and like clinical theories and things like that. Um, there’s also. The side D route, which is not a PhD, it’s a side D. So it’s still technically a doctorate. I think you still call it a doctorate.

Um, but there’s no research involved or very, very, very, very, very minimal. Or maybe you’re just like learning about how to read a research paper, not really like conduct research. Um, and it is fully clinical focused. I will say sies, you can, very rarely, these are things that you learn being a fun fact. I was, I was a, um, what are they called?

Academic counselor, that’s not the word. Academic advisor in the psychology department at NC State while I was getting my PhD. Um, so I helped a lot of people determine where they were gonna go with their careers and stuff. Um, so I, I actually have an abundance of knowledge on this stuff. Um. But SDS don’t typically have funding because there is no research involved.

’cause it’s not like a research based university where they are getting money coming into the psych department to fund and develop and conduct research. So PhD programs on the other hand, like you could go in with your. Um, tuition, like fully funded, which I did. And to be honest, I’m pretty sure all of the students in my program did.

So we’re going in and I worked as a PhD advisor, PhD advisor, academic advisor. Geez. Um, I worked as an advisor, um, actually my first year. My first year I didn’t, my first year I had like a, I won like an award type thing to like fund some of the research we were doing in the mindset lab and I didn’t. I have to work or pay for my first year, and then the following years I had to work and.

Had my like stipend for that work, if that makes sense. Like in exchange for working as an advisor, I got like everything else kind of covered, if that makes sense. Um, so yeah, funding is a big thing and that was a big thing, like when I went into interview PhD programs, I obviously wanted to try to find the most funding possible, so that does not happen in the society world.

Okay. That was probably more information than you asked for. Um, but anyone out there who is looking at. Going the doctorate route for your psych degree. I sure hope that helped. Okay, this is the last question and then I’m gonna go drink some water and find a cough drop. Uh, what if someone is brainwashed by the guru self helpers?

I. He’s only 28 and he’s stuck in such a fixed mindset. It’s preventing him from moving forward in life. He’s making very little money because he believes not working is better than doing something you don’t want to do. How do I get him out? First and foremost, my friend, you cannot get him out. He has to want to get out himself.

And that is, you know, mindset and behavior change at its core. Um. I think the first thing to think about and like, I guess you could share this with the person who is struggling here, is that, and maybe, maybe I would not just immediately go to him and be like, listen, listen here, this is what you need to hear.

Right? Um, choice is a luxury, right? Like there. I’m pretty sure most people in the world are doing things every single day that they don’t necessarily want to do, but they have to do. Um, myself included, you know, I think I’ve, I’ve definitely awarded myself the, the luxury to not have to do everything anymore.

And there’s a lot of things that I didn’t like doing in my business that I now have been able to outsource, but there’s still things I don’t wanna do that I have to do. Like, that’s also life. Right. And I, I mean, I, like I said, as a luxury. I can turn down partnerships and opportunities that I don’t really feel like I wanna do or aren’t super exactly aligned.

Um, but that wasn’t always the case. Like when I first started my business and was going full-time, I’m pretty sure I said yes to fricking everything. Like including like thinking of an example, including I went to, I literally went to a hockey rink and showed up after. It was like middle school hockey players after their practice.

And delivered like a mini seminar on like pre and post-workout nutrition to like, and their parents were there and everything. Like, I’m not working with athletes, I’m not working with hockey players, I’m not working with middle schoolers. But I was like, you know, their parents are there and those were the people that maybe I would wanna work with.

So I literally like was. At it for every opportunity that I could get. And I do think that that’s a big part of, um, where I am today. And that’s not, like I said, not necessarily the, the most perfect opportunity, not even something I really wanted to do. It was like seven 30 or like 8:00 PM on like a Wednesday night and I was in grad school and like all this stuff.

Um, yeah. But you just do it. You just, you do it. Um, obviously like my recommendation is that. Outsource as like soon as you can so you can continue to stay within your zone of genius and do the things that only you can do. Like that’s definitely my recommendation when you can get there, but no one starts there.

No one starts there. So obviously like get clear and visualize where you want to go and what you want your life to look like, but keep in mind that the path to get there is going to be different than that. Ultimate vision that you have. So I think that that’s very, very important. The path to getting to where you want to go, that path itself isn’t going to be the end goal.

’cause you’re, it is. It’s the path there. Right? So something I say a lot to is that easy doesn’t build strong skills. If everything was handed to you on a silver platter, you never really had to work hard for anything you never had, do things that you didn’t want to do, and you reached the outcome that you’re looking for.

It wouldn’t feel so great. And to be honest, you’d probably be unsatisfied because you didn’t actually learn anything. You didn’t gain any more skills. It was just kind of handed to you and you just got it. Like, I like to think about people who win the lottery versus people who have like made millions of dollars.

And then lost it, and then made millions of dollars again, like the people who win the lottery, so many of those people just blow the money and they don’t know what to do with it because they didn’t work. They didn’t work to get there. There was no skill building it. It was just handed to them. And now it’s kind of like, well, what do I do with my hands type situation?

Whereas there’s other people who’ve like worked really hard, learned a lot of things, got their hands dirty, did a lot of stuff they didn’t wanna do, made millions of dollars, and then something happens and they lose it all. And like those people can always make it back again because they built the skills and the strategies and they learn the things that got them to those first few million dollars in the first place.

So now the chances of them being able to do it again is very high. So. I think about that for this. And I think, um, in general too, this is a little bit of like a fixed mindset, slippery slope. ’cause if you’re constantly just operating from a place of, if I don’t want to do this, then I’m not going to do it.

Yeah, that’s like shady territory because a lot of times, a lot, a lot of times the things that we don’t want to do are the things that we’re not good at or we’re uncomfortable with. And it’s not that we don’t want to do them, it’s that we don’t like the discomfort that comes with it. So a lot of times the things that you don’t wanna do are the things that you absolutely should be doing.

So be careful with that too. Like is this really like a, I don’t wanna do it so I don’t have to do it, or is a. I don’t wanna do it because I’m not good at it yet. It’s not comfortable for me. It’s something new. It’s something different, and that’s why I don’t wanna do it. ’cause those are the things you really should probably fricking do.

That’s the truth. The comfort zone, my friends, is a beautiful place. Feels so good there. It’s a beautiful place, but nothing ever grows there, so keep that in mind. Honestly, I feel like that was a pretty solid end to this episode. So we’re gonna, we’re gonna wrap it up there. I don’t have any further questions for now until our next q and a episode.

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